Chamber and committees

I have a final quick wee question. You said that it is obvious that the charter should contain the principles that are laid out. I quite like seeing them laid out right there in the bill. It is almost like a seamless transition from saying, “Okay, we talk about the principles and here is what the national care service is going to do”, to saying, “Now, here is what the charter will incorporate.” Is it reasonable to have the charter laid out in this framework bill, as we have just discussed?

We have looked at the issue of self-directed support, and I know that it is being reviewed. It seems to work really well in some places but not in others. You have highlighted the need to work with colleges, which is about co-working and co-engagement, and I know that, in both its Stranraer and Dumfries campuses, Dumfries and Galloway College is doing a great job in looking at future care providers. I just do not think that people know exactly what self-directed support is or means and how it can be implemented.

Issues have been raised about the national care service and employment. As we have seen—and, indeed, as I have seen from my own work—social care workers are paid differently in different parts of Scotland. If they are doing the same job, why are they not being paid the same wages? Carers do a vital job and need to be compensated appropriately.

I am interested in hearing whether you think that the bill has enough detail in it to ensure that fair work principles will be realised in the national care service. That issue has come up in various places, and it certainly forms part of the work in which I have been engaging locally in Dumfries and Galloway.

Jennifer Paton might want to go first on that.

I have an initial question for Councillor Kelly. Before the bill was published, did COSLA reach out to the Government to say, “We’re here and we want to feed into this”?

So you knew what was coming, kind of, before the bill was published?

Do you really think that the Government is gonnae take away your electric cars, Eddie?

Thanks. I think that my question has already been answered.

Secondary legislation comes through committees all the time. I have been an MSP for six years. We approve affirmative legislation: we scrutinise it when it comes to committee, so I do not for one minute think that there will not be appropriate scrutiny of what is coming down the line. I know that this is a big piece of work and that the framework bill sets out where we are to go, but I take on board what Sandesh Gulhane said about organisations that provide care to disabled people and their perception that there will not be the ability to scrutinise the legislation. I suppose that my question is about how we can make sure that the Law Society of Scotland, the Faculty of Advocates and the Scottish Human Rights Commission are still involved in the process as we take all the legislation forward.

Good morning to the convener and to everybody. I have a short wee introduction, which I will read out to keep myself accurate and on time.

It is braw tae be here tae propose the restert o the cross-pairty group on the Scots language, or the Scots leid, alang wi ma colleague Jackie Dunbar MSP, whae hersel is a fantastic native spikker o Scots Doric. This is in oor ain national Pairlament.

Scots is a language. It was ratified under the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages by the United Kingdom Government in 2001 and it is recognised as an indigenous language by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization.

I pey tribute tae former MSP Rob Gibson, whae convened a Scots CPG in session fower o this place. He made great efforts tae advance Scots aa ower Scotland, and the statement of principles that were produced by his CPG—which I have here—are still relevant and valuable as a resource to build on.

We want tae restert the CPG acause Scots is an important pairt o Scotland’s culture and heritage, appearin in sangs, poyums and leeteratur as weel as in modern-day yaise fae Shetland tae Stranraer. Quite simply, the Scots language is o a wheen importance tae Scottish identity. Scots wis the state language here afore 1603. Its importance, and the need tae continue tae protect and promote Scots, is clear and cannae be denied.

In the 2011 Scottish census, 1.5 million people reported that they could speak Scots. I look forrit tae the census results next year, tae see whether the nummers are mair.

Scots is baith a historical language and a vibrant, modern language. Literary giants sic as Robert Burns, Hugh MacDiarmid and Walter Scott wrote in Scots, and there are monie modern screivers whae mak me prood, tae, when I see whit they write and their confidence in takkin Scots forrit.

However, Scots needs mair national attention, focus and political support. The cross-pairty group will, therefore, bring thegither folk fae the Scots community tae focus national attention—here and across the country—fur tae advance and promote speirin and scrievin in Scots. We want tae raise questions o, and provide clarity and guidance tae, the Scottish Government as it taks forrit the promised Scots language legislation in this session.

Mair important, the CPG will work tae ensure that Scots is here fur generations aheid. We will work tae ensure that young folk hae the opportunity tae yaise Scots at schule, which has awready been shown tae lead tae mair than a scantie increase in attainment.

We want tae inspire confidence in weans and bairns across wir country so that they can be chuffed when they yaise Scots, whether they are native speakers or no.

As the main custodians o Scots, here where oor mither tongue and indigenous language stertit monie years ago, we hae a really important duty tae promote, protect and celebrate its contribution tae Scotland’s identity and future, even as Scots continues tae evolve.

I therefore ask the staunnarts committee tae approve the CPG. We are happy tae tak onie questions fae memmers.

That is one of the things that we were speaking about. I am learning about the language and the grammar—particularly the grammar that makes Scots different fae English. I will give an example. Where I come fae, there is a place called Portpatrick and Lochans, but everybody calls it “the Port” and “the Lochans”, or they say, “Ah’m goin tae the toon.” When I was speaking to Joe FitzPatrick about it the other night, he said that that is replicated in Dundee, where folk use “the” in front of whatever place they are talking about.

That shows that Scots is broad and is spread across Scotland, including Orkney and Shetland. It is not that we have got all these different minority languages; it is because that is the way that Scots evolved out of Old English and Danish, with Norse influence, even. We have a language that is vibrant and needs to be promoted. When we start speaking to each other about the history and grammar that makes Scots different fae English, it reinforces to me the need to promote it.

That is right.

As well as men, we have people from diverse backgrounds. We have people whose first language mibbe wisnae Scots or who moved to this country from South Asia or wherever. We hear them every day when we are out and about. There is an opportunity to make it not just for the lassies, but for a wider audience as well.