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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 November 2024
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Liam Kerr

Forgive for talking over you. I understand that, but I am looking for a figure so that the committee can look at it and say that that is what we need to make the legislation work.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Liam Kerr

—because schedule 1 to the bill specifically says that the accreditation committee will be independent, and sections 19 and 20 say that the accreditation committee must produce its own corporate plan and independent report. Also, I think that schedule 1 goes on to say that the majority of the members on the accreditation committee must not be connected to—or staff of—the new qualifications Scotland. Yet you remain unconvinced. Why?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Liam Kerr

What would be Unite’s solution, then? Is it to amend the bill such that there is a complete split? Perhaps it is something else. Is it to bring in a regulator of the sort that I understand there is in England?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Liam Kerr

What do you think, if I may ask? This committee wants to know what it should do. I have put it to you that there are provisions in the bill that seek to preserve or promote independence, but you are uncomfortable with them and have said that the bill does not do that. So, what should we do?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Liam Kerr

I have a quick question on something that Pauline Rodger said to John Mason. The committee is considering the bill and trying to make sure that it does what the Government wishes it to do. In response to John Mason, you said that there is not enough finance. If you have quantified that there is not enough, logically you would have gone on to say what would be enough. Can Unite the union tell us how much extra is needed to make this work?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Liam Kerr

I want to ask you a direct question about that, if you do not mind. You say that you are supportive of the learner provisions, but does that suggest that there are provisions that you are not supportive of? In answering that, can you tell us whether you think that the bill addresses all the criticisms that were levelled at the SQA, or is there anything missing or requiring amendment?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Liam Kerr

Laurence Findlay, I note your remarks in your submission, which are challenging. Will the bill as drafted address the concerns that were raised by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development and by Professor Muir and Professor Hayward and/or achieve what their reports intended?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Liam Kerr

Forgive me for cutting across you, but I am sure that those issues will come out during the evidence session. I asked whether the SQA specifically accepts in their entirety the criticisms that were levelled.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Liam Kerr

We all respect the views, but I put it to you that that suggests that you disagree with some of the criticisms.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Liam Kerr

I will be asking you a direct question about that in two seconds, so I will just hold things there, if you do not mind.

How much involvement did you and the SQA have in drafting the bill, such that it is actually something that the SQA has worked on, given the criticisms that were made? After all, you will have the knowledge. Have you had input into the bill, or is it being drafted and imposed by the Government?