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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 November 2024
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Fiona McQueen, in your opening statement you said that the bill possibly does not go far enough and that not all of Lady Elish’s recommendations have been met. I have two questions. First, do you think that the process would still be overly complicated, despite the bill, because of all the different layers of bodies dealing with complaints, such as professional standards, the SPA and the PIRC?

Secondly, the previous chief constable and the current one have stated publicly that the force is institutionally racist and discriminatory. Do you think that the bill will go any way towards helping in that regard? What steps has the SPA taken to try to address that?

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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Okay—thank you. That was helpful. Would anyone else like to comment?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

We have a completely different set of figures, which might be to do with timescales.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

You have answered some of my questions there, Nicky, but you have also talked about introducing the wraparound support. We have heard from our witnesses that they did not receive that, quite honestly, so I want to understand the context and the timescale for that. When was it introduced?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Therefore, you will hold Police Scotland to account on any of those matters. If you hear about or see something happening that should not be happening, you will hold it to account.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Mr Johnston, are you aware of the use of non-disclosure agreements in complaints procedures?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Rona Mackay

When the police use them, are you made aware of that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Rona Mackay

The other issue is transparency and lack of communication. People have just been left not knowing what is happening. That is operational as well, I guess.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Rona Mackay

I want to ask you briefly about vexatious complainers. The bill does not contain any reference to that, and the Government has said that it will monitor that and bring it in as secondary legislation if it is required. What is your view on that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Two of the main issues that we have heard about from witnesses are the time taken to complete investigations and what they perceive as a lack of transparency in the system. One witness told us that the system does not work for police officers or members of the public, and another said that the time taken was a deliberate tactic used by Police Scotland to wear her down and make her simply go away. Will the bill do enough to tackle those issues?