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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 November 2024
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

That is correct. That is great. Does Hannah Axon want to come in?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

I think that Hannah Axon wants to come in.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

We are having technical difficulties again. I will go over to Simon Burt, who can hear us loud and clear. If we can fix Jillian’s connection, we will do that. Simon, you have some views on that IJB structure thing.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Simon was nodding during that answer from Hannah.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Great.

Willie Coffey has another area that he wants to explore with you, so I hand over to him.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Jo Gibson, thank you very much for that perspective. It is a really good note on which to conclude our evidence session this morning.

I thank everyone who has taken part. I am sorry that we have had some technical difficulties, which has meant that not everyone has been able to hear everything and we have not been able to hear you as much as we would have liked. Apologies for that.

I thank our witnesses—those who joined us online, and Hannah and Richmond, who joined us in the committee room. It has been a valuable session for us. We have gathered a lot of important evidence, and we will have discussions about how best we can marshal that evidence in order to improve the resourcing of and support for the important work that you do and of which you have oversight. Thank you very much.

10:50 Meeting continued in private until 11:25.  

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Finally, last but not least, please introduce yourself, Tracey.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Does Public Health Scotland dig into the reasons why there are such stark variances in areas that cover similar population types?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

I do not know whether you saw the evidence session that we had last week. Kirsten Urquhart from Young Scot took part and, regarding young people, said:

“going on TikTok is not the same as knowing where to find and how to use a mental health support tool.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 9 November, c.9.]

In other words, she was saying that, among younger adults, there were issues around whether they could access online appointments or whether they, too, would prefer face-to-face appointments.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

It is also in line with the Christie commission principles about early intervention being absolutely critical, which we talk about so much at the Public Audit Committee. Thank you for that. Simon Burt and Jo Gibson want to come in on that question, too.