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Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
You had agreed the builders refund guarantee.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
He is the chief executive, and this is about the board.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
Was that by 31 August 2015?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
I think that they are, but we are also paying attention to the outcomes here. Here we are, all this time later, and there are still no ferries. This guy may have been the world expert on naval procurement and ferry procurement, but the fact of the matter remains that this contract is two and a half times over budget and five years late.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
MSP, I think.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
However, from the perspective of the negotiating position, the First Minister—the head of the Government and the leader of the Scottish National Party—comes along and announces Ferguson Marine as the preferred bidder. She would have been made to look pretty foolish, would she not, if five-and-a-half weeks later it was decided to put the contract back out to tender? That must have strengthened any negotiations that you were having with CMAL about the builders refund guarantee.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
What do you mean, then, by a parent company guarantee?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
Do you mean state aid rules?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
Okay. We are in the final few minutes of our meeting time. If Willie Coffey does not want to come back in—no, he is okay—Colin Beattie will make a final point or ask a question.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
Okay. Thank you. On that last point, you said in your written evidence that Mr Mackay said that he had got “a legal letter”. What do you understand by that terminology? What is “a legal letter”?
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