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Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
Thank you. I will now bring in Willie Coffey.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
Were you advised about the 20 August email to Keith Brown about the award of the contract?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
Well, we were told that it was one day later.
I will bring in Sharon Dowey, who has some questions on that announcement.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
So a paper was not submitted to Cabinet on the decision to take public ownership of the Ferguson Marine shipyard?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
So you share some responsibility for the position that we are now in, of—
Public Audit Committee
Decision on Taking Business in Private
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
Good morning, and welcome, everyone, to the 26th meeting in 2022 of the Public Audit Committee. The first item on the agenda is a decision on whether to take agenda item 3 in private. Do members agree to take that item in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
The principal item on our agenda is consideration of the section 23 report prepared in March this year by the Auditor General for Scotland entitled “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”.
I welcome our witness, the Rt Hon Nicola Sturgeon, First Minister. We have a number of questions to put to her, but I ask her to start off by making a short opening statement.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
Okay. The three questions were responded to with answers that constituted 150 words. The last time that I wrote to Keith Brown, it was on two subjects. When I wrote to him about the fatal accident inquiry relating to Allan Marshall, he responded in 1,000 words, and when I wrote to him about the Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill, he responded in 866 words.
Do you think that a reply that constitutes just 150 words is a satisfactory response to the serious inquiry that is being carried out by the Parliament?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
You mentioned your Government’s decisions, and one matter that is of interest to the committee is what was brought to Cabinet. Was the preferred bidder announcement taken to Cabinet, or were the unconditional financial guarantee of £106 million to CMAL, the £45 million bail out of FMEL, the financial collapse of FMEL or the nationalisation decision taken to Cabinet?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
Before I bring committee members in, I seek clarification on a couple of points. First, in your foreword to the Scottish ministerial code, you say:
“it is essential to set and maintain the highest standards of propriety and openness for Government Ministers.”
Do you think that Keith Brown’s response to the committee on 18 October meets those standards?
