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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 November 2024
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Public Audit Committee

Written Authority: Completion of Vessel 802

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Did it go to the Cabinet, for example?

Public Audit Committee

Written Authority: Completion of Vessel 802

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much.

Can you describe the timeline of events that led to the director-general economy’s request for a written authority?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of South Lanarkshire College”

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Thanks for that. I bring in Craig Hoy, who has a couple of questions to put to you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of South Lanarkshire College”

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Richard Leonard

That is helpful. Willie Coffey has some questions to put to you.

Public Audit Committee

Written Authority: Completion of Vessel 802

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Yes—okay. Craig Hoy has some questions.

Public Audit Committee

Written Authority: Completion of Vessel 802

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Richard Leonard

As somebody who was born and brought up an islander, how do you think people will react to your answer, which suggests that the reason why the two vessels—both vessels—are five years late and three and a half times over budget is inflationary pressures and supply chain difficulties?

Public Audit Committee

Written Authority: Completion of Vessel 802

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Okay. I just reflect on the fact that, with regard to the supply chain, components were ordered so far in advance that they were rusting in the yard because they had not been used.

Bill Kidd has a question for you.

Public Audit Committee

Written Authority: Completion of Vessel 802

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Okay. But in light of that, I still question why Gregor Irwin—who was then sitting in the chair that you are sitting in this morning—was contemplating, in co-operation with Audit Scotland, releasing some of that material.

Public Audit Committee

Written Authority: Completion of Vessel 802

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Richard Leonard

But he did not know, two weeks ago, that the release of the report—which you have just described as a report that, in its entirety, has got intellectual property rights attached to it—would jeopardise the commercial future of the yard.

Public Audit Committee

Written Authority: Completion of Vessel 802

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Richard Leonard

I have just got one final public audit question for you, cabinet secretary. It is on a much smaller scale, but it is quite important to us. It concerns the cost of the consultants. In the evidence session on 1 June, Mr Irwin said that the cost of the First Marine International report came in at a quarter of a million pounds for six months’ work. He described it as

“first-class external independent technical advice”,

and acknowledged that

“that sort of advice might not come cheap”.—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 1 June 2023; c 13.]

So that was six months’ work for the FMI report at a cost of a quarter of a million pounds.

In a parliamentary answer at the weekend, we were told that the cost of the Teneo report was nearly three times that amount—an estimated £620,000. Admittedly, that was not for six months’ work—I think that Ms Hall said earlier that it was for eight months’ work. Given that, earlier, Mr Cook said that the Teneo report just looked at value for money, why on earth is it costing such a huge amount of money? In light of that, why on earth is none of that report able to be published?