Chamber and committees

That is a great note to end on. We could speak to you for longer but we have run out of time and we need to bring in our second panel. Thank you all for your time; it has been extremely helpful.

We will suspend the meeting to allow the panels to change over.

We will move on to self-directed support and transitions, which a lot of people have already mentioned in their opening remarks. Emma Harper will lead on that.

Emma Harper wants to pick up on the issue of care records.

Emma, I am conscious that Karen Sheridan wants to get in, but it might have something to do with the previous questions on Anne’s law. Karen, is that the case, or do you have anything to add to what has been said on these particular questions?

We have 10 minutes left for our final theme. I know that we have talked a lot about co-design throughout the session, but Paul O’Kane and Evelyn Tweed have specific questions on the matter.

It bears repeating. Paul, do you have any more questions before I hand over to Evelyn Tweed?

Can I just follow up by asking Dr Gould a question? We totally appreciate everything that you have just said—[Interruption.] What would be your plea on making the co-design process that the Scottish Government wants to adopt accessible so that the views of people in your position in rural areas can be heard? [Interruption.]

I want to follow that up. That comes back to your points about the charter having teeth, Hannah. You have mentioned other human rights legislation as the backdrop for quite a lot of those unmet rights.

Again, I am making a comment rather than asking a question, but I ask for your reflections on that. There is already legislation out there, and people have not felt that their rights have been met. I presume that the charter and the bill need to have something in them that allows people an avenue to question when their rights have not been met.

I will go to Dr Gould first.

Are you happy to develop that point? What aspects would you like to see in the bill that are not already there? What aspects cannot wait until the co-design process?