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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 November 2024
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Gillian Martin

The next item on our agenda is further consideration of the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. We will have two evidence sessions. The first panel will focus on certain services relating to social care, including mental health and drug and alcohol services, as well as public protection; the second panel will focus on older people and on Anne’s law.

I welcome Elinor Jayne, who is the director of Scottish Health Action on Alcohol Problems; Kira McDiarmid, who is senior policy and public affairs officer at Change Mental Health; and Susan Webster, who is head of policy and campaigns for MND Scotland. Thank you for coming.

I apologise—joining us online we have Mark Hazelwood, who is the chief executive of the Scottish Partnership for Palliative Care. Many apologies, Mark; I did not forget you—well, I kind of did. I am sorry; I just did not read below the line on my papers.

I have been asking most people who come to our sessions about their hopes for the national care service. What do you hope that it will address? Relating to that, there is an opportunity to review those aspects of integration that have not been working, but which you hope will work in a national care service, because that is essentially why it is being created.

I will go round everyone. Not every committee member will be able to do that—they will probably direct their questions—but I tend to do this to hear witnesses’ general thoughts. Perhaps we could start with Susan Webster.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Before I hand over to my colleagues, I want to pick up on something that has been put to us—not just around palliative care, but I will concentrate on that. We have heard from quite a lot of people in our informal sessions that, often, the only consideration is the person who is receiving palliative care—not the wider family. The systems that are out there do not take into account other family circumstances. An elderly person, who might have their own health needs, might be looking after somebody who is receiving palliative care, but they are considered completely separately rather than as a family. Has that been your experience, Mark?

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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Gillian Martin

I call Tess White, who has questions on palliative care and long-term conditions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Gillian Martin

There is time for a final question from Sandesh Gulhane, and then we must break.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Gillian Martin

That is very helpful. We will go to Dr Manji.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Thank you. That is a very helpful start to our conversations this morning. I call Gillian Mackay.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Dr Manji—do you want to come in?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Do you want to move on to your next topic, Paul?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Cathie wants to come back in.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Gillian Martin

We will move on to questions specifically about Anne’s law. Evelyn Tweed will lead on that theme.