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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 November 2024
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Mr Birt, if you want to comment on any of that, you can, but I was going to move on to the council tax freeze. I picked up that you are not all that enthusiastic about it. Does the council tax freeze aim to achieve a target that you are aware of, or does anything good come out of the council tax freeze?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

I want to follow up on what Martin Booth and Kirsten Hogg said about multiyear funding. Are local authorities and voluntary organisations looking for slightly different things? Presumably, it would make a big difference for Glasgow to know that a 5 per cent budget increase or decrease was coming down the road. We heard that for a voluntary organisation to know that it would be getting 50 per cent of its budget would not be very helpful. However, we have raised with the SCVO before the fact that, even if an organisation knew that it would get 50 per cent or 75 per cent of the budget allocation in the previous year, that would make a big difference, because it would not have to make people redundant. In that scenario, the organisation would at least know that it would be getting something. Are we talking about two slightly different things?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

On the transparency point, is there a danger that we are getting too much information and that we are just getting lost in it? The Scottish Parliament information centre makes the point that there are 157 pages just on how the budget tackles inequalities. I confess that I have not read the 157 pages. I think that the convener has touched on it, but maybe we need a different kind of information.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Are they not both true, in a sense?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Is it possible for politicians to be honest with the public?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Professor Bell, you were nodding at some of that, but should I be worried about the ballooning social security budget?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

I will start with Dr Sousa. In your written submission, you comment that the SFC is quite optimistic about Scottish earnings growth—more optimistic than the Office for Budget Responsibility. Are you convinced by the SFC’s arguments?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Professor Bell, do you want to come in?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Do either of the other witnesses want to say what is a good thing that comes out of the council tax freeze?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

I will give you a chance to comment, Mr. Birt, but I want to touch on another area before my time runs out. The social security budget is increasing from about £5 billion to £6 billion, which is dramatically more than the budget for almost any other sector. Now, I know that it is demand driven, and we have been given evidence that it is therefore harder to control, but is there a risk that it is running out of control and we need to somehow tack it in? I will come to you first, Mr Birt, because you would like the budget to go even higher with respect to the Scottish child payment.