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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 November 2024
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Edward Mountain

Martin Johnson is trying to get in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Edward Mountain

Basically, there is huge pressure to get this right as soon as possible, and industries will respond to and pick up from that, but the longer the situation goes on, the more difficult it will be for those industries to survive.

That is probably a good point at which to end. I thank Peter Clark, Rob Dickson and Martin Johnson for their answers, which have been interesting. Time has flown, as it does when you are having fun and are interested in a subject.

11:01 Meeting continued in private until 12:07.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Edward Mountain

Yesterday, we heard concern that, if new businesses came along, they would not be able to use the facilities because of the restrictions that are placed on use of facilities by current users. I do not know whether that is a problem, but we can find out.

Rob, I will paraphrase you. You said at the beginning that people do not get over a bad ferry experience quickly. A lot of people out there might have had bad experiences in the past few years. Yesterday, we heard that it will take a long time for people to get over that. How long do you think that it will take?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Edward Mountain

To build on what Liam Kerr asked about, we heard yesterday that a lot of island businesses rely on external contractors to come in and do work. They load up their vans the night before, turn up at the port in the morning to find that there is no boat and then find at the back-end of the day that the boat has been shut down because of weather conditions. People suggested that some businesses are no longer prepared to work on islands because they cannot guarantee a full day’s work and because the costs of working there are prohibitive.

Are Peter Clark and Martin Johnson hearing that from the people they represent? What are the effects on business? In the businesses that you represent, people cannot have all their own specialist skills to meet all their requirements.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Edward Mountain

I am really interested in all the answers that you are giving but I notice that the clock does not slow down with the interesting answers. I am conscious of time, so I ask everyone to bear that in mind. There are questions that I would like to ask but I will give way, rightly, to the deputy convener so that she can get her questions in and then I will see whether there is time for mine at the end, which I am sure that there will be.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Edward Mountain

Thank you, Martin—that is very helpful.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Edward Mountain

Martin, do you want to comment on that in relation to not only tourism but other businesses on the islands?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Edward Mountain

Do you think that it might take as long as five years? If the service suddenly became perfect today, would it take two, three or five years?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Edward Mountain

We have unanimity among the witnesses.

The first question from committee members comes from Jackie Dunbar.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Edward Mountain

There used to be a basic route organised, which was accepted as a distillery flight to get people out there.