Chamber and committees

Welcome back. We continue our stage 2 consideration of the Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill. Amendment 17, in the name of Patrick Harvie, is grouped with amendments 18, 21 and 56.

We resume with agenda item 3. I welcome everyone to our stage 2 proceedings on the Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill, including the non-members of the committee who are here for this item.

The deadline for completion of stage 2 is today. The committee has permission to continue the meeting for as long as it takes to complete our consideration.

I remind members of the procedure. Our main working documents for today are the bill, the marshalled list and the groupings. I say to anyone who is observing our proceedings that those documents are available on the Scottish Parliament’s bill page. I will call each amendment individually in the order shown on the marshalled list. The member who lodged the amendment should either move it or say “Not moved” when it is called. If that member does not move it, any other member who is present may do so.

The groupings document sets out the amendments in the order in which they will be debated. There will be one debate on each group of amendments. The member who lodged the first amendment in the group will be called to speak to and move that amendment and to speak to any other amendments in that group. I will then call other members with amendments in the group to speak to—but not to move—their amendments, and to speak to other amendments in the group if they so wish. I will then call other members who wish to speak in the debate—if you wish to speak, you should try to catch my eye or indicate to the clerk. I will then call the Acting Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy, if she has not spoken already in the debate, and finally I will call the member who moved the lead amendment in the group to wind up and say whether they wish to press or withdraw that amendment.

If a member wishes to withdraw an amendment after it has been moved and debated, I will ask whether any member present objects. If there is an objection, I will have to put the question on the amendment. Later amendments in the group are not debated again when we reach them in the marshalled list. If they are moved, I will put the question on them straight away.

Only committee members may vote, and voting is done by a show of hands. I ask committee members to please keep their hands raised for long enough that the clerk can see them, so that the individual votes can be recorded. I will also put formally the question on each section of, and schedule to, the bill as we come to them.

I hope that that brief run-through was helpful. I know that most—in fact, all—-members of the committee have taken part in stage 2 consideration before, but a description is often helpful for people who are watching online.

We move to the marshalled list. The clerks have suggested that I read out the preamble. At introduction, the Presiding Officer determined that a financial resolution was not required for this bill. Under rule 9.12.6C, the Presiding Officer has determined that the costs associated with amendment 19 would in themselves exceed the current threshold for a bill to require a financial resolution. Therefore, in terms of stage 2 proceedings, amendment 19 may be moved and debated but may not be agreed to in the absence of a financial resolution.

Section 1—Scottish carbon budgets

Amendment 38, in the name of Douglas Lumsden, is grouped with amendments 39, 40, 13, 23, 48 and 57.

As no other member wishes to speak, I go to the cabinet secretary.

The cabinet secretary has come to an end, so I ask Graham Simpson to wind up and indicate whether he wishes to press or withdraw amendment 1.

The question is, that section 62 be agreed to—sorry. There are not 62 sections in the bill, for those people who are paying attention. [Laughter.] The question is, that section 2 be agreed to.

Section 2, as amended, agreed to.

After section 2

I am sorry, but we have not got to the “not moved” part yet, Mr Golden. [Laughter.] Perhaps that will help you to remember that conversations that are loud enough for me to hear distract me. I certainly cannot do more than one thing at once.

Amendments 16 and 13 not moved.

Amendment 62, in the name of Mark Ruskell, is grouped with amendments 64, 49 and 50.

I ask Patrick Harvie to wind up and to press or withdraw amendment 60.

Thank you. I call Mark Ruskell to speak to amendment 13 and the other amendments in the group.