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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 November 2024
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Colin Beattie

It is 49.5 per cent.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Colin Beattie

We had the benefit of hearing from some young people who had been through the experience of getting support and so on. They came here and we had the opportunity to speak to them and get their views, which was really valuable. The ones I spoke to were very scathing about what support they received at school. Subsequent to that, as they transitioned on, they were fairly scathing about the jobcentres as well. They felt that the jobcentres did not know what to do with them.

I also had the opportunity in the past week to visit a couple of schools in my constituency. I have one high school that has 49.5 per cent additional support needs and I have a primary school with 54 per cent additional support needs. That scale is huge. How do we address that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Colin Beattie

Do the resources exist to be able to provide that level of support for the sort of percentages I talked about? I know that additional support needs are a whole rainbow of different needs. Some of them are very light touch and some of them are very intensive but, nevertheless, all of them need resources. At those percentages, how do we allocate the resources? Where do they come from? As I say, it is not just about money; it is about having people available to be able to give that support.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Colin Beattie

Why are we not gathering that data? It seems so—

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Colin Beattie

How can that change?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Colin Beattie

I notice that there is not much mention of jobcentres, although everybody with disabilities ends up at a jobcentre at one time or another, because they have to. What we heard was that they did not really understand them.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Colin Beattie

Well, it just seems so basic that we should have information at our fingertips to enable us to better support people and better target that support.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Colin Beattie

The final area that I want to look at is data and information gaps, and I have two questions that I am interested in getting a response to. Do we have an understanding of the level of unmet need for support in Scotland? Do we have sufficient understanding of disabled people’s experiences of the labour market? Do we have any data on that? Are there other specific data gaps that it would be useful to get information on, in order to better target the work? After all, in the end, this is all about targeting.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Colin Beattie

We recently had the opportunity of meeting young people with experience of the system, particularly employability services, and it was interesting to get their feedback. I have to say that the feedback from the ones to whom I spoke was pretty negative, and it focused on their experiences in school and at jobcentres. Do employability services in Scotland meet the needs of people with learning disabilities and neurodivergent people?

Perhaps you could start, Alan.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Colin Beattie

Although my example referred to young people, I did not mean to restrict my question just to them. It just so happened that that was the experience that we were able to delve into.