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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 November 2024
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Colin Beattie

Yes, I mentioned the figure of £128.25 million.

FMEL accepted £45 million from the Scottish Government, but it said that it did not want the loans.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Colin Beattie

Mr McColl, my main interest here is obviously in following the public pound. A lot of public money has been invested and I am keen to understand how it has been dealt with. At the point of nationalisation, the vessels were largely incomplete.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Colin Beattie

I want to come back in on a couple of points that you touched on earlier. First, I have managed to dig out the cost of purchasing FMEL’s assets. I realise that there are all sorts of offset figures involved, so this is a crude figure, but it is £7.5 million. That was the valuation put on all the assets in the yard, which is very far short of the money that went in there.

Secondly, the milestone payments were £83.25 million. In fact, £82.5 million was for milestone payments, but £0.75 million was for contract variations. That seems a very small figure, after listening to what you have been saying—

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Colin Beattie

How can the committee identify those variations and understand the costs against them?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Colin Beattie

What would your estimated value be?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Colin Beattie

You are saying that the money was absorbed by changes and so on to the specifications. Is there any document that lays that out and puts cost against that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Colin Beattie

Why did FMEL never pursue its claim in court?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Colin Beattie

So you are saying that the Government has this information.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Colin Beattie

Certain statements in the RECC report seem to raise a question. For example, in paragraph 157, the report states:

“the profile of milestone payments may have resulted in the contractor progressing certain work on the vessels either incorrectly or out of sequence purely in order to trigger payments against the contract”.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Colin Beattie

—and percentage of fabrication, that takes us back full circle to the value that was in the yard, which I believe, although I am talking from memory here, so this is open to correction, was something over £8 million, yet £128 million—