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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 November 2024
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

Perhaps we can discuss that outwith the committee.

That brings us to the end of the evidence session. I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for attending.

11:09 Meeting continued in private until 11:30.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

There are some brief supplementary questions.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

I have a question that is linked to Ms Hyslop’s question about the plan’s flexibility or responsiveness. The plan will necessarily contain a number of risks, and assumptions will have to be made. You mentioned new technology. We are not at the commercial stage with that yet and it is not certain what will come to our rescue, as you put it.

Will there be plan Bs and contingency? Will there be a recognition that that is the situation? Although we can be aspirational and know what we think we need to deliver by 2045, it is not a certainty.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

You do.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

Cabinet secretary, could you expand a little more on the timescale for the just transition plan for the Grangemouth area? You have recognised the work that the committee is doing and that it will inform the Government’s work. Can you give an indication of when the draft plan will be ready?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

Thank you—that was helpful.

You mentioned the leadership board. Other members will have questions about that, but it is our understanding that it does not include any business representatives and is quite public sector focused. I will, however, leave that for other members.

I will ask about the just transition commission, from which we heard last week. Recently, it has commented mainly on the draft energy plan; it has exchanged correspondence with the Scottish Government, and it has expressed a degree of frustration about its involvement in processes that have gone before. Given that, as I understand it, a memorandum of understanding has now been agreed between the commission and the Scottish Government, how do you see its involvement in the draft Grangemouth plan as it develops? Do you want to say a bit about the memorandum of understanding and how you are recognising the commission’s role?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

Is the intention now to bring business on to that board?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Claire Baker

Yes. One point that you made in the response to the draft report is that there is a need to tackle some of the difficult questions and to really get to the nub of some of the harder issues and try to reach consensus.

I will bring in Maggie Chapman.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Claire Baker

Colin Smyth has some questions.