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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 November 2024
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Report on Climate Change and Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

There is a net zero portfolio in the draft budget, but we do not really have anything in the other portfolio sections that looks specifically at climate mitigation.

You talked about public and private sector costs. Interestingly, figure 3.3 on page 33 of your document shows that about 30 per cent of the total cost of capital investment required on the balanced pathway from 2020 to 2050 is in private sector electricity supply; the figure is 20 times greater than the figure for public sector electricity supply. That is not only 30 per cent of the total cost—it is also reserved, which shows the difference in the interaction.

That graph is quite interesting, because if we look at the total costs for the devolved sectors, we see that almost half of those in Scotland are public sector costs, but less than one tenth are reserved sector costs. Does that make you think that the public sector in Scotland has to take a greater lead than it is currently doing?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

It is about consistency across financial memorandums.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Report on Climate Change and Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

So, when the draft budget is published every year, we would hope to see something like that, from a Scottish perspective.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. Paragraph 27 of the financial memorandum says:

“The figures contained within this Financial Memorandum are the Scottish Government’s best estimates of the costs of the provisions of the Bill”.

Clearly, that is not the case, is it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Report on Climate Change and Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

You have said that the oil and gas sector accounts for one in 200 jobs in the UK and one in every 30 in Scotland, but what share of taxation comes from that sector?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

We will obviously deliberate in private session on where we go from here as a committee. If that is your questioning finished, I will move to John Mason, who will be followed by Michael Marra.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Police Scotland has said that it will cost nearly £5 million more than the figure in the financial memorandum. That is more than three times the figure in the memorandum. Do you think that the figures in Police Scotland’s submission are more accurate than those in the memorandum?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Michelle Thomson has a brief supplementary question.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Report on Climate Change and Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

That concludes questions from the committee. It is interesting to see the huge amount of money that this is going to cost, given that Scotland produces 0.1 per cent of the world’s emissions and oil production currently stands at 108.6 million barrels per day. It really is a global issue, and we can but play a part in resolving it.

Professor Roy, do you or your team wish to convey any further points to the committee before we conclude?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

It is groundhog day for the committee. Paragraph 33 of the memorandum says:

“Many of the Bill’s provisions will require secondary legislation to be fully implemented.”

Why are those provisions not being included in primary legislation?