Chamber and committees

Both. Okay. That links into my next question. How can we measure whether we are meeting those obligations? Also, how can we measure whether the state has used all its resources? How can we measure whether we have maximised the resources in terms of the relative provision? Where do we start?

When you say “independently”, do you mean that families have to source that training, as opposed to its being readily available?

I appreciate that. Zainab, do you have anything further to add?

Yes.

Thank you—that is really helpful. There is a lot to do.

Did you want to add something to that, Rob?

Is there usually a time limit on an impossibility test? Your example reminds me of what happened during Covid, when libraries and other public centres were closed in order to house vaccination centres. Is there therefore a timescale attached?

Sorry, Zainab, I missed the last bit of that. I think that you said that you would like MSPs to speak at events throughout the year.

Thank you. That is really helpful. We will have a think about how we can do that.

Convener, may I go on to my question about English for speakers of other languages?

Good morning. Thank you for your opening statements and for answering the questions so far; it has been really helpful. I want to look more specifically at what we have just discussed. The evidence that we have had said—Dr Hosie, I think that you mentioned this when you last gave evidence—that our levels of, for example, food poverty and food bank use suggest that we are not really delivering a minimum core. Where are we, by international standards? If we have a global minimum core, but there is also the concept of a relative minimum core, where are we on that? Where should we as a committee be looking at when starting to consider a minimum core?

Okay. It would be helpful if the commission were able to look at what work, if any, has been done to assess the payments’ adequacy. Thank you. I have no other questions in this area.