Chamber and committees

Okay—thank you.

Abdool, do you have anything to add?

Abdool, do you have anything to add?

Yes. There is certainly a lot to think about.

That brings us to the end of our questions. I thank the witnesses for what has been an interesting and insightful discussion. It has been great to get some of your thoughts on what we can do better in Scotland and how we can learn from what is happening in England.

We previously agreed to take our next two items in private.

Before we move on, I will pick up on the indicators. Blyth Deans said that there might need to be new indicators. Should we wait until your report is published in January for that response?

Thank you for that detail. I will bring in Miles Briggs.

Thanks very much for that. Jonathan Carr-West, do you have anything to add on how we break into the system and reduce demand?

Thanks very much.

I briefly suspend the meeting while arrangements are made for our second panel of witnesses to join us online.

Blyth, have you seen any innovation in how local authorities are engaging with communities? In the committee, we hear about consultation fatigue. Have you come across any councils that are engaging with communities in a different way that is perhaps a more uplifting experience for people? People feel that they are consulted but do not then see a result of the consultation.