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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 November 2024
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Stephanie Callaghan

Will you give us a couple of examples of the type of detail that you would like to see?

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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Stephanie Callaghan

I will wind back a bit. How do we ensure that people who are receiving support are kept central to the evaluations that we are talking about? Would the national performance framework be helpful, and would it be part of that in your view?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Stephanie Callaghan

My first question is to Henry Simmons and Dr Manji. Are there parts of the bill that you would like to be enacted immediately and are there other provisions about which you think that more time should be taken to co-design them?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Stephanie Callaghan

I was panicking there, convener, because I have two questions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Stephanie Callaghan

My question is for Mark Hazelwood, too. Palliative care brings so much comfort and reassurance to families—in fact, it is priceless—but how well are things working in relation to keeping people at home as much as possible? You talked earlier about one in three hospital beds being used by someone in their last year of life and increased admissions and discharges. How can we improve that situation, and how could the national care service help in that respect? I am wondering about the ability to quickly step up and step down care at a local level. What are the important factors that should be considered?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Stephanie Callaghan

Yes, and then I have a quick follow-up question.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Stephanie Callaghan

That is fantastic. I will just mention the Blantyre care hub, which is absolutely fantastic at some of the stuff that you are talking about.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Stephanie Callaghan

So, it is about continuing the co-design, if you like, through the process so that it keeps impacting on delivery and policy.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Stephanie Callaghan

I could not agree more, and I think that most people will feel exactly the same.

My next question is for both Susan Webster and Mark Hazelwood. Is there anything specific that you would like to see in the bill to support what you have been talking about?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Stephanie Callaghan

I will go to Mark Hazelwood first, because he has mentioned a couple of times having the data to be able to make decisions. I realise that we have a wide range of experiences here—different types of people with different challenges—and we have always spoken about lived experience being central to the national care service. Across the board, for different people in different situations, what should we consider measuring and how do we measure that? What are the things that really matter, which we should focus on?