Chamber and committees

We will patiently wait and see whether we can get Katy back; I imagine that she will have some follow-up questions.

Would you like to come in, Mr McCreadie?

Thank you all, again. I close the meeting.

I call Pauline McNeill, to be followed by John Swinney.

In that case, I will bring in Russell Findlay, followed by Rona Mackay.

Thank you, Hannah. Finally, does Sarah want to say anything?

I open up the session to members, starting with Rona Mackay.

Pauline McNeill is next.

Thank you very much. With that, I will bring in Sharon Dowey.

We have around 10 minutes left. At this point, I will bring in Pauline McNeill.

Thank you very much. You spoke specifically about defence lawyers. The committee is aware of, and understands, the fact that there is a need for improved trauma-informed practice across the whole criminal justice system, from the point that somebody contemplates making a disclosure to the conclusion of a court case, because the whole justice system could be involved in a case.

I am interested in your views on two things. Do you think that a whole-system shift in trauma-informed practice is essential, rather than there being a piecemeal approach? I am also interested in your thinking around a trauma-informed environment—for example, the committee has spoken about the way in which traditional court buildings can be intimidating. Hannah, perhaps you can start by outlining your thoughts on how we embed trauma-informed practice across such a large system.