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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 November 2024
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Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Our next letter is correspondence from Martyn Evans, who is the chair of the Scottish Police Authority, about changes to the police pension scheme. There is also an associated letter from David Page, who is the deputy chief officer at Police Scotland. Again, I will open up the floor to comments. The letters were in relation to some correspondence from us requesting an update on progress around the impact of the pension scheme changes.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Absolutely. I agree with that, Fulton, and maybe we should think about staff members in that regard, as well as police officers. I propose that we keep the issue on our programme and come back to it down the line. Are members happy with that?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Audrey Nicoll

You are correct. It works with offenders in that field.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Item 3 is consideration of a number of items of correspondence that the committee received during the summer recess. I refer members to paper 2. As you will see, the clerks have suggested some follow-up actions in the table in paragraph 3.

I propose that we take each letter in turn. I will ask the committee for any views, and then for agreement, on how we wish to proceed with each of them.

We will start with the letter that the committee received from the Minister for Community Safety in relation to legal aid. Do members wish to make any comments on the correspondence?

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much for that. Members have made valid points, not least in recognising what, at this point, the committee’s role is and is not.

I found both sets of correspondence to be comprehensive and helpful in setting out the historical context for today’s legal aid provision. It is clearly not a straightforward situation and challenges remain with regard to everyone getting to where they would like to be. I agree with Collette Stevenson about our ideally having a system that meets the needs of those who work in it and those who are in receipt of the services that are provided through legal aid.

I do not want to repeat the points that members have already covered. I am therefore happy to pick them up and link with SPICe to get further information on the context of all of this, as well as the timeline that Jamie Greene has mentioned, which would be helpful.

I note that the Scottish Government is currently in negotiations and has undertaken to update us on their progress, as well as on the review of the Public Defence Solicitors Office. I am happy for us to write the minister for an update on that progress and to refer to the Edinburgh Bar Association letter that we received yesterday. We will also cover the issue in our budget scrutiny, as it will form an important part of that forthcoming process.

I therefore propose that we link with SPICe and write to the minister on the points that we have raised. Are members happy with that?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I move to our second letter, which is from the Scottish Government and outlines its plans following the consultation on the not proven verdict and other matters. Yesterday in Parliament we heard an update in relation to the programme for government around the proposals to abolish the not proven verdict.

Do members wish to make any comments on that correspondence?

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Audrey Nicoll

If there are no other comments from members, I am happy to write and ask for that information.

The next letter is from the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Veterans on the funding for recovery cafes in Scottish prisons. Are there comments on that correspondence? Obviously, we are aware of the statement on the national mission that will be made in Parliament—I think tomorrow—which might also incorporate an update on work to progress provisions such as recovery cafes. Are members happy to agree to the suggested recommendations in regard to that letter?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Yes.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I agree. I found the letter very helpful in setting out quite a lot of information that had either slipped off my radar or that I was not aware of.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Are members happy with that?

Members indicated agreement.