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There you go—co-ownership.

Thank you, colleagues. That concludes the public part of our meeting. We will move into private session.

Before I bring in my colleague, I want to ask a follow-up question. There is accreditation, but you also mentioned remuneration for people working in care. Has that also been addressed in the Nordic countries?

Thank you, Dr Connon. I will let you catch your breath for a moment.

You ended by making a point about the ageing population, which is a worldwide concern. Another concern that I imagine affects most countries, and which we are facing in Scotland, is how to attract people into the care sector. An objective of the bill is to make working in the care sector an attractive career, with parity of esteem with our health sector; indeed, that issue came up when you talked about New Zealand. Do you think that, because of what has been done there, New Zealand has less of a problem in attracting people into the care profession? Are there other models that you can point to where there have been good outcomes after reforms have been made?

Sandesh Gulhane has some questions on that theme.

I call James Dornan, who is joining us online.

We move to colleagues who want to ask questions on the projections for future social care costs, starting with Evelyn Tweed.

I appreciate that. I am not saying that the bill is a magic bullet, but does it potentially provide the framework—

I will bring in Professor Hennessy before we move on to talk about definitions of care.

Thank you. We move on to definitions of care, the questions on which will be led by David Torrance. If other colleagues want to come in, they should let me know.

We will move on to talk about a key theme that came up when we heard from Dr Connon, which is the future demand for social care and the demographics. Gillian Mackay will lead on that.